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Peter Pan Goes Wrong - Episode 4 - Broadway Rewind!

00:00This is the Mischief Makers podcast and I'm Charlie Russell, hosting brand new episodes chatting all things Peter Pan Goes Wrong, recorded on Broadway in New York City. Hello and welcome back to Mischief Makers podcast. And today we're chatting to my friends and colleagues on Peter Pan Goes Wrong Broadway. For the listeners guys, would you introduce yourself and tell us who you play in the show? Let's go. Hello, I am Ellie Morris and I play Lucy Grove, AKA Tootles, AKA one of the Lost Boys. That's amazing.00:30I'm Harry Kershaw and I play Francis the narrator and Checo the pirate. Very good. I'm Matt Cavendish and I play Max Bennett who plays the four-year-old Michael Darling and the crocodile and potentially one other but I don't want to...00:48release a spoiler. What? I can't even think what that might be. I think it might be very exciting for all those people who are going to see our show after it's finished. If there's another life for it. Indeed. Well, that's the thing. So we are actually coming to the end of our Broadway run. We are at the beginning of our final week in New York. We've been here since what? End of Feb? Yeah. 27th of Feb. It feels a bit like having gone through a wormhole.01:12from like, rehearsal week in London and now we're finishing. And I don't know what happened to the middle. Yeah, exactly. You remember the beginning, you remember the end and then it kind of just, the blur happened. Yeah, months passed really, but it's all been wonderful. Like a good show.01:27the beginning strong, end strong, middle... Forget about it. Can't remember. No idea what happened. Much like Beat Van in any way. I mean, I do remember going back in London, like it felt like this point was so far away. I couldn't really imagine it, but what was it like for you guys getting back to the show, having not done it for, what, seven years?01:51I did it briefly on New Year's Day in 20... when was it? 2018? New Year's Day 2019? New Year's... yeah, 2020. Yes. 2019 to 2020. Yes, you're right. New Year's Day 2020. Yeah, did two random days. That was New Year's Day. I was doing a different Christmas show at the Park Theatre in North London and...02:18a number of, there'd been a number of Max's used on the tour. There was injuries and illness. And so I did my matinee at the park and then got a phone call to say, could I come and do Max at Alexandra Palace, which was a 20 minute taxi ride away.02:31And so I had already the script in the taxi and off I went and how are you feeling that day? I was a little hungover New Year's Day and I've been at your house Charlie Strong margaritas I Only had a few of those but it was plenty enough margaritas plagued you in your they have03:01of hell is just to be, oh, a bit hungover. Yeah. Can you do a show you haven't done in years? Thank you. Years, yeah. It was madness, but it was actually good fun. And I think being slightly hungover helped because... Oh yeah, no inhibitions. I was just like, well, give it a bash. And luckily I knew a few of the tour cast, so they were able to push me around. I thought you were going to say lines. I knew a few of them. Well, the lines actually did come back after 20 minutes of going over them, and thankfully that part doesn't have tons. So...03:28It was alright in the end, but it had been years since we'd been in the West End before that, and then like six years or something. Yeah, a really, really long time. Has it felt nice coming back to the job, guys?03:40Oh yeah, I think so. I've loved it. I like that there's been some kind of small changes and alterations. I feel like Lucy's changed a little bit, which I'm kind of enjoying. She is still 12. I know what you're going to say. Yes. Is she though? No. Don't you constantly change her age? Maybe. That is to be confirmed.04:02I give Chris basically, depending on whatever Chris Lee says to you, you then change it to the opposite. Yeah, depending on who's talking to me, my age randomly fluctuates. Lucy's anything you want her to be. She is 12 or she might be 30. She's probably somewhere in between. It has always been, I think like this has been the one, the fondest show for me because it was the first one. Well, actually when...04:31Ellie and I, did we join at the same time? Or were you before me, the company? We definitely did the first Edinburgh. No, I think we did. Yeah, I think we did. What was that, 2014? And then that September, Harry and I and Chris and a few others went out on tour with this. And that was the first scripted mystery show. Oh, nice. Yeah. Oh, that's cool. And that tour was great in many ways, but Swindon, which is my local. Swindon, it's like a 2015. It's a lovely, lovely theatre and everyone associated with it in any way.05:01is wonderful, but not many people from the surrounding area turned up to watch the show. So it was just some of my available friends and family.05:13from the nearby area, I think probably numbering about seven people. Oh wow. Which was, it was obviously a very supportive crowd. But there's only so much support seven people can give in a massive theatre. And I remember, you know, I think opening the first preview here.05:37the difference between those seven people. And maybe an even more upbeat Broadway audience was startling. I bet. Well, that's what I was going to ask actually, because lots of people ask me this all the time, and people ask us at stage door and stuff, like, what is the major difference between performing to American audience and to a British audience? And I personally do think it is sometimes just the...06:01mega response. Wooing and clapping. Yeah, the enthusiasm. In the UK, I feel like we would, given the choice, I certainly would go for a wry smile over something more obvious. Audible. Just in case I got it wrong. It's an obvious number. Whereas on Broadway, they love a woo. Love a woo. And they love, for example, if someone says, welcome to Peter Pan.06:28That'll get a round of applause. Actually, some people, for you, Harry, love an owl. A lot of people like an owl. That's been getting that a lot. It's because they get mocked. No, it's not. More obviously. They're unafraid to mock you. Standing ovations are like just a requirement out here. Yeah. It's lovely.06:48But it's a thing that just after every Broadway show people stand and clap. So that would be missed actually in my daily standing ovation. Yeah, I don't, I have to say I would prefer... A more genuine. A more genuine. I do sometimes look out. People are obviously enjoying it, but you're just like, well not every show. I disagree. I massively disagree. I just want everyone to stand up and every show. I know. And then I believe that it's just because every single show was that good. Yeah. I like that. But what about the show...07:18on Broadway that doesn't get a standing ovation. Well I don't think there is one. But if there were, how like, how unsuccessful would the show have to be in its aim in order for people to be like, no one is standing up. Yeah, we should try and put on a show which doesn't make a standing ovation happen at the end. Well I watched a show which, you know, should remain nameless, which I probably didn't feel that I would normally stand up at the end of it, right? It wasn't...07:47necessarily the best thing I'd ever seen. And if I was in the UK, I wouldn't have stood up. But because it was a musical, like if something were, there's a moment where they play the music and then they literally say, get up and start dancing, so you are just doing it. And we kind of do that as well.08:04We're sort of inviting it, so even the other day we had quite a quiet show and the first few rows did not stand up and then they sort of felt like they had to. Stuck to their place of origin. Just sit guys, if you need to just sit, do it. But no, it is obviously nice. The most English thing is asking people not to stand up and give us any ovations. Just sit down guys. But I must say the audiences here have been amazing. They've been wonderful.08:33They get really involved. Yeah, people have dressed up. That's something I don't remember about the UK, people dressing up as the characters. We've had a couple of Peter Pan's, some crocodiles, some pirates. The other day we had a group of people who I would call, they were in, they were in gentle cosplay.08:49So it wasn't a full cosplay, they weren't entirely committed, it was just that their outfits were a sort of nod to the character they had gone to. Oh, very classy. It was very classy. So someone was wearing green. Harry, you're laughing! They were wearing green and on their bag they had written Snap Snap. And then there was a woman who was wearing blue with a ribbon in her hair. Yep.09:13And they'd all come together. Just the tip of the hat. Yeah, just a little knob for cosplay, which I quite enjoyed. But sometimes it's quite full on. Yeah, very enjoyable. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, there's a level of enthusiasm that you don't tend to get in English culture. Yeah, and for this show it's so great because obviously we are constantly looking for people to interact and call out and shout out and woo and be invested and they really are. That's a big difference, like, that's specific to...09:39this show is that in the UK there's lots of pantomime references and back and forth and over here pantomime is not a thing so the show has had to be adapted slightly but the enthusiasm and keenness with which American audiences throw themselves into a genre of theatre they don't really understand. Oh I know, it's so fun. Part of their culture is great. Yeah they get so involved. Yeah it's great. But then they're so upset when Henry Shields shouts back at them. Yeah yeah yeah. I mean the kids, the children who watch the show generally, I mean I can't...10:09speak for every single child but I'd say generally more confident. The most confident children I've ever seen in the children watching Peter Pan Goes Wrong on Broadway. Very confident. Henry sort of makes that comment in the show often doesn't he? He's like why are children also confident? And someone said is that really true? Is it really different? But it totally is isn't it? There's so much more like do you need a hand? And then they'll be like you can do it!10:39Neil was doing his bit and he got asked like where he was from and then he just started listing his entire address and like it was just the sweetest thing. He was like well firstly I was born in Cairnso but actually I'm not really from there. That was just very sweet. That was super cute but you get all of that don't you Harry? You're constantly interacting with...10:59People with the animals. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, there's a balloon section, which I think is probably why we get the standing ovation. Oh, absolutely. You know, even down at a balloon section, I've always said that. Yeah. To any show, actually. Yeah, to any show. All shows. The Crucible. Yeah. It's a great show. What's it missing? A balloon section. A balloon section, right. I think we can all agree. Balloon.11:24Jesus Christ superstar. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm pretty sure that if you were Yeah, yeah, but absolutely very very very very confident in generally in their choice of11:53The other day there was a youngish girl I'd say and she was asked... What does that mean? Like not a child? I think she was like... I'd say sort of like maybe 12. Okay got it. Yeah. So definitely a child. Pretty young. I was wrong. And it was difficult because she was laughing when asked about her...12:16like what animal she wanted me to make. But she laughed sort of for quite a long time and not everyone in the theater could hear that she was laughing. And it was a fascinating thing because I was like, I don't know whether to move on here or to stay. And I don't think, yeah, again, I don't think that's the same response you would get in the UK. Mm-hmm. Do you think you would even...12:44They're quite happy to talk to you here. Yeah. In fact, in the UK that section in particular is normally about a slow, painful failure on stage, but it's very difficult to do that on Broadway because they're so enthusiastic. Yeah. But whatever you do, generally, I've managed to die a few times. Yeah, you've had a couple of cracking. Yeah. I mean, there have been some moments where, that I will never forget, you were a cow once. Yeah. Oh my goodness. I lost it. I entirely, I lost it because you...13:14You were being a cow, you're on all fours. And then you started to milk yourself. But from my angle it looked very different. It was problematic. It really was. But thankfully from the audience's perspective it did look at least like a cow milking themselves. I'm not sure that it did. In looking back I think potentially.13:38But potentially it wasn't my finest moment. I think at a drama school they'd said, you'd be going to Broadway and then we'd cut to the film version of it where I was on all fours milking myself as a cow. I'm not sure how proud any of my tutors would have been. You went to a toothed stuffy giraffe. Milking myself. Our drama school's just please, we're still working. If you've been a student of mine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my goodness, well yeah, that bit absolutely got me. I've also enjoyed your snakes with legs. Many giraffes.14:07Yeah, giraffes. Yeah, giraffes are popular. Giraffe's the most common animal. Recently, people love giraffes and my giraffe is bad. Bad. It's poor. Oh, I enjoy it. It goes for the Chris's hat. It has a couple of leaves sometimes. My favorite is the hairball. When it's a cat, you're in for a treat. Yeah.14:25I like the bunny. I don't want to... Thank you for your support. Me and my partner have started using Harry's giraffe as a marker of like how intense something is or like how's the anxiety and if it's Harry's giraffe, which is for those listening, is one arm high in the air and then the hand snapping like a mackerel. Yeah. But it's not really like a mackerel. If it's Harry's giraffe then it just means high because it's just a high arm up in the air. Oh I see. High anxiety. Very nice. Harry's giraffe level of anxiety. Oh how high, yeah, that's fun.14:55Yeah, sometimes there's a noise. And the noise is? The noise, well I don't think we all know. It's probably the universal noise for every animal. It's quite similar to the other animals, to all of the other animals. Yeah. If I'm honest. Do you do that on purpose or are you trying to make it? Sometimes, you'll have noticed the other day I did an owl. It was good. That was very good, yeah. That was very good. And then, you know, a cat.

15:24The cat you've really started to nail. Yeah. Only after sort of like 12 different cats. Yeah. It really comes to mind. You've got it. I really enjoy when you ask what kind of cat or what kind of dog and then it makes no difference to the performance you hear. No difference at all. It's really if it's taking me longer to tie the balloon. Oh is that why you are?15:46Yeah. I've always wondered why. Oh, that's so good to know. Just feeling chattier. But it's true, they definitely, like in the UK, they would probably relish in the moment of you kind of dying on stage and it going really badly. Whereas in the US, they're just like, well done. Yeah. You tried really hard. Shout thank you Broadway. Yeah, very loudly with great finesse. And you'll get that round of applause. Yeah. And you guys think you don't like it. I do, I love it. No, don't get me wrong, it's great.16:16keep applauding me everywhere I go. Oh gosh, yeah, you need to clap, particularly in the... Oh gosh, yeah, you need to clap. Please, please clap. I believe in fairies. Absolutely, if you don't clap then... Sometimes they're ahead of you on that. You know, Tinkerbell will not get up. Revive. Yeah.16:31Oh my goodness, how do we continue with the show? I don't know. So much will change. Yeah, but I think that's it. Yeah, American audiences are very much, they're so on that moment. They're always, they're really ready to join in, which is lovely. Yeah, it's really nice. And I think because Peter Pan isn't a seasonal show here, because in the UK it's that thing of like, oh, it's only really done at Christmas, but here they do it all year round, which is awesome for us. And then we could come here in the summer, which has been nice. Well, what else, I mean, people have asked me sort of, is it different even just more as an actor?17:00less the audiences but the production side of things, maybe wardrobe or even just the way things are run here on Broadway. Like have you noticed any differences in particular? I would say just there's more crew, isn't there? There's more crew allocated to specific things. So I think in the UK, we would be doing some of the naps and stuff like that. And whereas here there will be someone who does that. So that's been quite cool to just have like a bigger crew and like, you know, meet lots of new people and.17:29Yeah, have more free time if you're not crouching on the ground trying to do a nap. Yeah, that's so true. Yes, and a nap is making the noise of a hit, not a sleep. Yeah, that's right. Everyone's just sleeping constantly. There will be many more people just to sleep backstage. How do you guys... It's probably not for the podcast, but it is now. How do you guys spell nap? N-A-P. Yeah, I think it's just an N. Sometimes in my head I put a silent K on it. I put a silent K on it.17:57And that's because I'm dyslexic. But is that... There's a Z on the end, I think. Maybe it's correct. Er...18:05I would I would I would say it was NAP although the K makes sense. A nap is going to sleep isn't it? Yeah but lots of words have double meanings. It could have another meaning like it could be the second definition in the dictionary. That's very true. But I just need to know now. Well yeah. I think it's NAP. Oh no hang on nap sound effects it's just people snoring I think. Oh yeah. Let me put slapstick.18:29Very good, very good. We're going to work this out. We'll have an answer for you by the end of this episode. That is probably the major difference is that they're much more unionised over here and so people have to have specific jobs for specific things and so there's a lot more people running the show backstage and bigger departments and that's the main difference from doing it in the UK. I also enjoy Dollar Friday. Dollar Friday. Saturday night on Broadway.18:58Yeah, things just feel a bit like bigger, you know, it's just kind of cool and you know, Broadway. I know I can't remember if we've described what Dollar Friday is on other episodes, so apologies if we're repeating ourselves, but would somebody like to explain to our listeners what Dollar Friday means?19:14Of course. Everyone puts a dollar, or at least, you know, you don't have to, but you can if you want, put a dollar into a hat and you put your initials on it. And everyone puts at least a dollar in and then at the interval, someone pulls out one of the dollars. And if it's got your name on it, then you get all of the dollars. So you get lots of that kind of money. Yeah, people can clean up. Sometimes it's like 70 bucks in there. I've never won. I'm furious.19:44I've never won a 31 smackers. Oh yeah, I won the first day. You did? And it was, yeah, I won $33. But like a split second before it was announced, as Adam was announcing it, I was in the room with Bartley and I just said to him, okay, if either of us win, we split it. And then my name was called through the speaker. So I had promised to split it. So I actually did, I gave Bartley. You did split it? I did. You said the words actua-20:12I actually did. I don't know why I said that. I did. Which made me believe you less. Who would've thought that I'd be on here? Who's just going to be like, no, it'll never happen? I spelt out the word high in dollars and put it on his dressing room table. Oh, that's very, I believe it. It was adorable. My God, that's the best thing. Yeah. I think because also I loaned you the dollar. Yes, I gave you.20:33Yeah, I got 100% of my investment back. I got $2 out of that. So you really got nothing out of your first payment. That's very sad. It was a mistake. And then you bought everyone bagels. Yeah. That's very kind. It's just the kind of gal I am, Ches. I remember that. What lovely bagels. They really were. The history of it. Yeah. But also there is a... Oh, it's tough. Do you buy something for everyone? Come in with muffins or bagels or cookies.21:01or do you not? Because I don't think you have to. Yeah. I don't think you have to. I'm going to, but I was going to do it last week, but there was a big cake because we'd done 100 shows. Oh yeah. Oh yes. And I didn't think people would want donuts and cake. But I want to get donuts from Bear Donut. Yeah. Because they're absolutely delicious. Oh, is that a recommendation? Oh yeah. You've even got a t-shirt. I've got a t-shirt. I nearly wore it today. Really? OK, I want to try them. There's a donut place around the corner. Love merch, yeah.21:29Do you? God, your eyes just changed then. Novelty t-shirts. Do you? Oh my gosh, that's good to know. Yeah, we went to a bar in Brooklyn and we both got sweatshirts. Oh, cute. And what I really love about those sweatshirts is they are the simplest. Cheapest. Cheapest design. It's basically a black sweatshirt with the name of the bar written just in a simple font. That's it. There's no other design, but we love them. It's quite nice to remember where you've been, I suppose. Good to jog the memory. That's true. Put my sweatshirt on. Oh, I went there. That's very true.21:59tattoo that's removable. Yeah. Perfect. The best kind of tattoo. A henna tattoo. Yeah. Or temporary ones. We can get these fancy temporary ones now that I quite like. Yeah, we've been having a lot of fun in our dressing room with those. Yeah, we do. Yeah. We put them on and then, yeah, they just take ages to come off and turn really gross. But at first, they're really cool. And it was kind of naughty. You're like, oh, I'm Wendy and I've got a little tattoo on that nobody knows about. I mean, I also have real tattoos that people very much can see, which I should probably put on a couple. But then you're like, oh,22:29Extra one. Yeah, usually during the show it kind of gets sweaty and gross and rubs off. Yeah Or nail art nail art. We've well, you know, don't tell The designers because I've been pushing that this but the the glitter on the nails. Oh, yeah It's a big one. We probably shouldn't be22:47Maybe cut this. But you know what is coming out late, they can't do anything about it. Exactly, what they're going to do is fire you. Oh absolutely. After it's finished.23:00Bring it on. No, I see. No, don't. Don't find me, don't find me. The conflict I was talking about. I'll take the glitter off. Oh, yes, yes. Oh, that's it. Before the episode started, Harry and Ellie were like, we're going to provide conflict with the set. Every now and then, just throwing some random conflict. Yeah. Just keep people on the edge of their seat. We wanted to kind of seed a narrative of like, descent. And... Drama. Yes, within the group. Yes, yes. And particularly from YouTube. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think we've done well so far. Yeah, yeah, exactly.23:29Would you say that more people wait at stage door here? Oh yeah, I would say. It was leading! Damn, I'm leading the witness! Oh no! Yeah, and I love that. Love that so much. I was so shocked the first time it happened. I really did not expect that. I should say, Harry and Ellie, this is your first time on Broadway. Matt and I are old, seasoned pros. Seasoned pros. So we knew this was coming.23:58Although to be fair it was not like this before. It's been bigger this time round, yeah. It tailed off a bit last time, didn't it, but it was sort of maintained. We had a couple of stragglers in the show, but now there's a lot of... It's crazy! ..some much bewildered people here. It weren't really there for us. Less fans, more passers-by. They're like, is this Times Square? We're like, yes, would you like a signature? Okay. But no, this is the first time we've really experienced it. Oh yeah, it's pretty cool, isn't it? It's great. Yeah, I mean...24:26Yeah, I mean, I'm sure that you're meant to say that you don't...24:31like it. Oh sure, yeah. You know, you're too cool to enjoy that. But no, I very much enjoy it. If I could pay people to do the same outside my house, just for a confident pick up in the morning, then I would do that. Well yeah, I have posted your address online, so people will come. Oh my god, conflict. Conflict again. No, I agree, I really love it. I know, we should be like, oh you know, it's fine, it's lovely, it's nice, but absolutely.25:01I absolutely love the EcoBoost. And it's really nice to hear when people are like, we really enjoyed it. We've come all this way to come and see it. I do feel humbled then, to be honest, when I'm like, gosh, you traveled from very far away. I'm not sure you should have. And you tend to get the people who enjoyed the show very much. You don't get that many people turning up and saying, that was the worst thing I've ever seen, sign this. That's true. It's one of those, it's like the best kind of review where they only stay and talk to you if they liked it. That's true.25:31If they didn't like it. Not confronted with the people who didn't. Yeah, exactly that. Yeah. And we get little gifts. We do. Oh, I love, I just love all of, yeah, all of the gifts. What have your favourite gifts been? Oh. A crocheted sort of, is that what it's called? Oh, it was embroidery. Embroidery. Yeah, the circular. Yes, that was so cool. The trolley. The crocodile trolley. Yeah. And an origami crocodile.25:54Oh wow, that's really cool. Yeah. Wow, wow, wow. We've had bracelets. We've had bracelets, we've had these amazing, actually I didn't get a bracelet so that was sad. I didn't get a bracelet. Everyone else did. Matt, what? Snap, snap. Yeah. I didn't get one. Henry got one. But what else are we going to say? Oh yeah, there's lots of stickers, these amazing stickers that have been designed around our characters, those are super cool. What else, drawings. I had some snacks, some gluten free. Oh yes!26:21Baked goods. Someone made me, which was the coolest, well, not the coolest, but one of my favorites, was this like zine or a zine. How do you say it? You know where it's like a mini, like homemade magazine? Oh yeah. Yeah. Someone made me like a tiny one and it was just beautiful and it just had all these like crazy quotes and pictures and stuff in. It was very lovely, so thank you. I like notes. People write little notes. Yeah. I enjoy that.26:48I'm not very good with gifts, I don't know what to do. But I am like, oh gosh. But then the notes I enjoy, I want to go and take it away and read it later. Particularly when they say nice things to me. How many notes have you got with people saying horrible things? I don't want to talk about that. These are the people who do write a stitcher and they pretend. And then they give me notes. Loved the show. I mean, this note and I go away and I read it later and I cry. I know that's the thing.27:18your notes of their nice things, which is so good. So any more specific moments on Broadway that stand out for you guys, particularly you two have not been here before. I think you generally, you deal really well with the audience. You're very good at just coming back with something funny or keeping them... That's very kind. ..entertained. Yeah, I agree. You are very good. There was the day that you...27:41I wasn't good. There was a day. There were several. But we tried. So there was a day, because Harry and I get to start both, like after the speeches and the letters, every act starts with just the two of us, right? And so I always sort of get to listen to your opening bit. Oh yeah.27:59And there were some late comers who came in and you stopped speaking and started to engage with them, but then So you slightly lost your train of thought Yeah, yeah, yeah I don't think I was there to do that It's quite a high status thing to do to start engaging from the stage But then it's also quite a low status thing to do to28:19forget what you're talking about. How do you plan to pan out then? You'd eventually find your throat. Yeah, eventually. Four hours in. I was just watching you thinking, how does Sandra respond to this moment? And I think sadly she looks at you with kind of disgust, which wasn't very supportive. I was like, Charlie would like to support you, but Sandra wasn't. Obviously people come in late to shows all the time,28:49But if they come in to the middle of the front row, then that is quite difficult not to see that. Yes. The rest of the audience have also seen that, and then quite often it can take quite a long time. We can always see it. Just people need to know that. We always see it, even if you're not at the beginning. Sorry, not at the front. But you're right, if we don't acknowledge it, being a show that acknowledges...29:15sort of all like moments that come out of nowhere, we're like, because it's that live thing where the show technically can't happen without the audience every night is the first night. We know that they're there, there's no fourth wall. So if we then ignore something really obvious like that, it can feel worse, can't it? Because I don't know, maybe the audience don't trust that we've got a handle on it, but then.29:38it's so vulnerable to choose in that moment to engage with the audience. I feel quite lucky, like I don't have to very often. And even when I do it's very small, but you guys have so much more and it's a vulnerable moment. You just don't know what's going to happen. I think it just makes it like, as an audience member, knowing that you've responded to something that is so specific to that show is very cool, because then it just like shows how much this is a unique thing and it will be different tomorrow and I like that about it.30:07Yeah.30:08You can't always have a hit every time though, Harry. I remember when I was covering a play that goes wrong in the West End, I come in, like someone had got injured, and so I came in to play the guy who has a speech at the end when, for those who haven't seen it, everything has gone wrong, you'll be surprised to hear. And one person is left standing, and I was playing that part, and a phone started ringing with like the classical ringtone from the audience, and it went on for quite a long time, and I thought, oh, there's a classical phone on the stage that's used quite a lot, and I thought I'll go over and- Oh my God. And pick it up. Oh my gosh, that's so bold. But I hadn't thought anything.30:38further a

30:38further ahead and the phone stopped ringing and I picked it up and it's so and then I just sort of was like now what do I do? Oh gosh Matt. I just said ah.30:49there's no one there. And put it down to absolute silence. And then carried on. I remember we got off stage and everyone was just like, what on earth? I think the last bit as well, that speech is like quite a- Yeah, yeah, it was a big moment. But I thought, cause it had run for so long, I was like, well, maybe best to acknowledge it. Yeah, fair. But it's how you see it. I get the logic. Don't shoot, you don't score. You've got to be willing to miss every now and again. You've got to try these things. Yeah. It was, I just remember, yeah, I just remember, yeah.31:20That is... That does not come off. But if it had, you'd have absolutely... You'd have been an academic hero. But yeah, I really admire you for going for it. I don't know how your win would have been in Eddie. Hello, there's no one. Carry on. Oh my God. One of the worst improvisations. When we did it at the Apollo, there was a woman in the front row when I was playing Chris who was very clearly asleep. In Peter Pan? Yeah, in Peter Pan.31:50section as well. Really? I thought that was quite an achievement actually.31:56So, yeah, it's difficult not to reference that. Oh yeah. But yeah, that was very funny. Oh gosh. That was a huge success in case anyone... Oh was it, yeah. Oh God, oh. Did she wake up? She did wake up. Then I explained to her what had happened during the show. Oh no, oh no, that makes me feel sad. And she, but not in a horrible way, in a very nice way. She enjoyed it. Oh that's sweet. She had a nice time. It wasn't me saying, oh, how day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was more sort of, you know.32:24That's quite sweet. I think it's hard, isn't it? Teamwork. It's teamwork. Me and her. She did considerably less. She just fell asleep. Making a bit. In the show, I think we have to, it's another thing with that corny way and mischief that we talk about, like we're inviting you guys to laugh at us. So it is much better if we are the subject of the joke. And that's very nice that it was sort of a kind thing. I just get worried, not when I've interacted with them, but when I've done something a32:54on stage so like obviously you were doing the show I mean I'm very well behaved compared to you lot. I didn't say anything so I just looked like I was going to and then I stopped. I mean apart from the fact that I am impossible and always corpse but sometimes I'm like oh I'll play a game I'll play a game with Matt on stage and I'll whisper something to him under my breath and then you get this33:20It's never worth it. It's never worth it because the fear and terror that my microphone was on and I've just whispered something really lewd across the wall. That's a big difference with this. Yeah. We've ever been liked in the West End, have we? No, not in the West End. And so we're just quite used to being able to whisper things to each other in sort of discrete moments. Do you think we can be heard in the wheelchair moment?33:48No, no, I think generally the mics will be down, but there might be the occasion where whatever is and they've not been pulled down. Oh god. Like sometimes there's a moment... Added element. I don't know if we can say this. We're going to say it and then if we have to cut it out we will. But there's a moment in the show where Chris Beans of Henry Shields fires like scissors into his leg, but it's partly Max's...34:14fault, right? Or like, you know, he sort of made that happen. It's a joint effort, as Harry would say. It's a joint effort, it's teamwork. And Matt will run up to me and go, I got him, I got him in the, I got him in, stabbed him in the, and then says penis. That's right, the word penis. But if we're cutting that out, he'll say, I stabbed him in the genitalia. That makes him sound so strange. In the crotchal region. And he says that, and then the other day we realised, like, if the mic was on,34:44That's awful. That's bad. That's a bad one. Yep. Also that hasn't happened and that's not the story we're trying to tell. No, no, it's in his leg. It's definitely in his leg. It's really very much in his quad and that says a whole other thing about Christine. Yes, I've stopped doing that once we realised we had the mics on. Yeah. It was a dangerous thing. Yeah, it is dangerous. How long did it take you to realise that you had the mics on? Months, Harry. Much less opportunity in this part, in this show, to mess around, I've found, than in Play That Goes Wrong.35:13Really? I don't know why, because I think I just have like, Max is a great and like really fun, significant part of the story in this show, but actually in terms of stage time, it's much more singular a track, whereas Play That Goes Wrong, the parts are much more ensemble and I've found that I used to be able to come on and especially as Dennis in Play That Goes Wrong.35:33make prolonged eye contact with people. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But also- A very good way of just being slightly off-putting. But yeah, you know, if you would come on, you would make intense eye contact with people. You would basically do the slightly raised eyebrows that was just like, are you going to laugh at this nonsense that I'm doing? Oh, that face. Or am I going to do it harder? I don't know whether, if I just laugh now, then he's won and he'll stop. But if I don't laugh, which is obviously better.36:03it's going to get worse, it's going to keep going until it's last. Oh god, I can't see every time. Very professional really though. Yeah, all in the spirit of play. All in the spirit of mischief. Yes, absolutely. You know, it's a nightmare working with you because the other day, again, in that same moment, the scissors didn't quite hit Henry Shields' leg and so he had to awkwardly twist it round and look like it had gone to the side of his leg and to be honest, for the audience they wouldn't have noticed but I had been a little tired.36:33so slightly not paying attention. And then the moment happened which really shocked me and I couldn't stop laughing at how sort of undermining and underwhelming it was. But because you're playing Max, Matt, you can just laugh. I'm allowed to smile. That's fun. Yeah, yeah. It's a real bonus. John was doing that thing where his face wasn't laughing but his voice was. Even Henry Shields was laughing but I had the lines. Henry Shields was laughing. He was looking at us bright red in the face, smirking, but I had the lines.37:03I couldn't speak them without laughing and the whole moment was ruined and I was very upset. I was very upset. Okay, well now, the other thing that people might not realize is that we are...37:15two pairs of dressing room pals. Oh yeah. That's right. Oh yeah. So Harry and Matt share a dressing room and Ellie and I share a dressing room. And I have set up a little game of Mr. and Mrs. and Mrs. and Mr. Mr. and Mrs. Mrs. and Mrs. I'm very excited about this game. It's a little jingle. I've made a jingle for them. How's it going to work? Because we've sent each other some answers. So what I think we'll do is, we will, Ellie and I will, I'll read the question.37:43And then Ellie and I will say, I will say what Matt's answer was and Ellie will say what Harry's answer was. Okay. We'll see if they match. Nice. And if there is in fact conflict. Yes! But first! Mild conflict. Mild. Loathe state as a conflict. But what I'd like Matt first is a jingle, please. Oh, lovely. Mr. and Mr. Mrs. and Mrs. Tune in to find who's best.38:13Bing! Aww, that was good! Lovely! It's almost like you do that for a living. Practicing that all morning. Good! So nice! Okay, so the first question is, we got your answers Ellie. Yes. So Ellie's answering for Harry, and I am answering for Matt. Are we doing it at the same time? No, that wouldn't make sense. Oh, I don't know. Harry's written, I mean there are kind of, it's not just one word, it's... Oh wow, you don't even get the answers, Harry.38:37I would like to read them verbatim. Oh mate, absolutely. I mean, I've had a couple of fears when he did this last night. I feel like we should have finished with these answers maybe because these are going to be hysterical. I'll read the question and then you can read Harry's answer first. Okay. Great. So, in your dressing room, who is the first in the dressing room? I am every time. Dish turns up at the half and shaves fifteen minutes before the show at the earliest.39:02And Mat Sonser was Harry by a mile. Yay! So you've agreed, you've got a point. You've agreed. Yes. One point. You're gonna count your points. Yeah, we've gotta count our points. Okay, that's one. Okay, who is the messiest? I am, meaning Harry. I can only apologize. And Harry by a mile. So another point for dressing with a bye.39:27Who is most likely to start a riot? I think Dish. I wouldn't have the confidence. I wouldn't have the confidence to start a riot. Or maybe I'll be like, riot everyone! And then people will be like, no. And I'd be like, ah, that was very embarrassing. You'd be most likely to try and start a riot and fail. Then you just sit on your own. You can't try and start a riot and fail. You're just a laughing stock. But when in doubt, just button everything with.39:54Thank you Broadway. Well, you've got another point because it is Matt has also written himself. Really? Matt is a natural leader of men. I think it was Slim Pickens to be honest. I don't think either of us. You are really, you are sort of an angry person. A real Napoleon sort of, yeah. Industry disruptor. Yeah, absolutely. Who smells the best? I do, I put effort into this.40:21Do you have another point because Matt wrote Harry? Yeah, and I do, yeah, I see your little teeny tubs of perfume. Yeah, very fancy. And I noticed the other day how lovely you were smelling. Thank you everyone, whereas I'm disgraceful. Well indeed, who has the best hair?40:40Dish, I have bad hair. You don't have bad hair. Yeah, it's bad. It's not. It's not bad hair, although Dish agrees. Me. So another point, count your points, you get points. Who farts the most? Dish, it's a problem. Agreed though. I've actually been quite good on this job, I feel like. I mean, relatively good. The odd one creeps out. Yeah. But...41:04It's not, you know, I had a reputation for bad wind from the age of about seven or eight. I did a production of West Side Story when I was 10, played Baby John, and like we were in the dress rehearsal and we were doing practicing the curtain call. And suddenly just an enormous space appeared around me in like a perfect circle. And I obviously just let out quite a bad fart. But it ends quite seriously that show. I thought you meant that story. I was like, what happened? No, no, that story doesn't, yeah. What did you do?41:34in that particular theatre group which I was sort of with until I left for drama school.41:40I'd maintained from that moment a reputation for farting, which is not a great thing you want following you around. Not the worst thing though. But also, yeah, not the worst thing. Not the worst. Yeah, it could be worse. So I apologise, Harry, sorry. No wonder you're spraying so much after this. And who spends the most time on social media? Harry says, I think I do. It's the football transfer window and the best way to follow this is David Ornstein's on Twitter.42:10No, fair enough. I'm not sponsored by him. He's just a very good... Tells you what's happening with Arsenal Football Club. How do you say his name? David Ornstein. The way you said that very much sounds like you are sponsored by him. I'm not the sponsor, David.42:26Who gets the most grime? Wait, what did Dish say? Oh yeah, oh yeah. Also Harry. Yeah. Yes, I was spending a lot of time on social media at the start of the job. I'm one of those like lurking in the shadows, I don't really create any content. Yeah. Sort of follow people. Lurking in the shadows. Yeah, I know, that makes it sound slightly dodger than it is. So I deleted Twitter and Facebook about a month ago. Nice. From my phone. So I've kept Instagram. I do that for about a week.42:56So it has to be Harry now, but before that it would have been Kolesha and I now just follow the BBC Sport for my transfer news. I'm not paid by them to say it. There you go. No one is being paid by anyone to say it. What is the transfer window? When you can buy and sell football players. If you have two specific times in the season you can do that in the summer from about June to September and you can do it.43:18In January. So you're, okay, that makes sense. You can't just do it any time. You can't? That's quite nice. Yeah, that's good. Quite nice. It's not like, it's drama. Yeah, yeah. Conflict and drama, that's what we're all about here. And a time pressure. Yeah, there's a loophole. Yeah. It's important, isn't it? Who gets the most grumpy? Harry says me. Dish is generally incredibly upbeat. Aww. Which is, I would say Drew. And Matt has agreed to it. Harry doesn't really get grumpy though. You don't get grumpy. You get maybe a quiet occasion. Apart from your anger problem.43:46Quietly furious. Yeah, yeah, apart from you constantly fuming. Psychotic.43:53generally fineness. There is actually a lot of noise that comes from your dressing room at all times. Yeah, sorry about that. When you were both off, it was so weird. It was so quiet and it was really, really sad. And then literally the day that you were both back, everyone went, what the hell is going on? And we realised you were just both back from Covid. It's lovely. It is. I love it. I love the screaming. I shared a dressing room with Adam Byron when we were doing Good Luck Studio and I had a choice to either tell him to be quiet.44:23or shout with him with him and I went for the second option yeah as you should right that was the only option really because he wouldn't have shut up if he told him to who is the boss Harry says there is no boss there's no boss mutual hierarchy and I don't know it's higher I told Harry to put that out44:52as the answer. Who's most likely to stay for ages at stage door signing playbills and taking photos? Harry says, I think it's fair to say we are both quite quick. Maybe Dish. I know it's neither of us but Chris Leesk spends ages at stage door. Don't get stuck behind Chris Leesk. It's wonderful and wonderful. Seed that conflict. Yeah, you have to have managed to throw shade on someone who isn't even here. And doing a nice thing as well. He can't defend himself. Mwah!45:21Yeah. But yeah, Matt has written mutual slash me slash himself. Oh, did I? Yeah. You're like, maybe you. But very similar. Sorry, Harry. I can't literally agree with every single question. Oh, is that a point lost? But that apart from that one. No, that's a great. That's okay. That's an agree. And who is the best at impersonating other cast members? Me, probably. That says Harry. Harry, also. Should I try and do that as Harry? Yeah, go on. Me. It's not giving you a lot of material to work with there. It's really hard.

45:51Hey, hey, hey! That's good, that's good. That's the sweet spot. Well then, Harry, what's Harry's best impression? Oh, I don't know. Now you're putting the pressure on, I don't know if...46:01Can you do an impression of anyone? Can you do anyone? Er, sort of Henry Lewis. Yeah, that's very good. Very good, yes. That's just Boris Johnson. Yeah, it is. Alright, can we swap over? Wait, no, there was another question. Er, is there? The last question was actually a repeat. I think it was a mistake. It was the boss. But we did include it in both of our things. And it's, who is the boss again? And Harry says, you're obsessed. There is no boss. Why does there have to be a boss?46:26I am obsessed. I need to know who the boss is. And I've also answered that question, so we would like to complete that in my round. Okay, I've understood. Which also indicates who I've put down as the boss. Okay, great. Let's swap it around. Matt, would you do the honours of...46:45asking the question each time. I can, yeah absolutely. And then Harry will answer with Ellie's answer. Great. Absolutely. And Matt will respond with mine. Mr... No we've had it already. We've had it. Do you want an interim jingle? No. Okay. HALFWAY POINT! HURR! That was funny. There was a couple of beers last night, Harry sticking around in the larynx there. Okay, here we go. In your dressing room! Who is the first in the dressing room?47:14This is Ellie's answer. She's kept it simple. She's just said Charlie. Charlie's put me brackets Charlie. I am by an absolute country mark. What time do you get in then? If the show starts at 7 what time are you in? Half five. Half five? Yes I know and you come in. I leave the house for a seven o'clock show at...47:3910 past a quarter past 6. I know. Yeah. I know this, Ditch. And then every two days you shave. Sometimes it's sort of 10-2. Yeah. Well, I get in. I sit in the dressing room for 10 minutes and then I.47:52get into some of my costume and mic at the quarter, and then I shave, and then I go down and do the show. Yeah. Harry, we're gonna have to pause the questions. Tell us about the shaving routine. Oh yes. Because this was mentioned even before we started recording that you wanted to talk about. I mean, the shaving routine is, I'd say, extraordinary because...48:12I just think it's so confident to shave minutes before you go on, which works very well for you. What's the worst that can happen? Are you worried about that I have a cut that won't... You could cut yourself. And then there'll be a night there, but you know... There's no buffer. Yeah, exactly, right. And you've got a little pot, a little brush. I've got a classical shaving kit, a safety razor and a...48:35What would you call it? A sort of... Like a foamy brush thing? Brushing a straw. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, it's pretty cool. Lathering bowl. Yeah, lathering bowl. Oh, wow. Well, that's actually because...48:47this might need to be cut because this is dry content. I'm sure we'd love a bit of dry. With more than one bladed razors, the first blade pulls your hair and the next blade cut them, which is why you can get quite bad razor burn. So if you have an old school just one blade safety razor, it might take a couple of passes, but you're much less likely to get irritation on your skin. In fact, you should. The amount of times I've heard that. Ah! I told that to everyone. We should keep that, because I think that's valuable information for the listener. That's what people want. Once you've got the shaving set,49:17It's vastly cheaper because it costs about £2 for 50 razors and you keep it for the rest of your life.49:23as opposed to getting like, spending 20 quid on different... Yeah. I wonder if the same would work on the leg. Maybe, yeah. Yeah, probably. I think lens razors are probably better. In LA, should we get a little shaving station? Yeah, absolutely. I'm very excited for this. Yeah, let's test them all out, all the different razors. We could do like a weird sort of, you know, like when you go to a barber to get a proper shave, but we do it on his legs. I wonder if that would happen. Do you think if you went to a barber and asked to put your leg up, they would do it? No. Why not?49:51Oh, there's only one one. It's all hair, isn't it? Yeah, that's true. Last week in New York, Harry, let's go get our legs shaved at a barber shop. It's the next adventure. OK, lovely. Next question. Who is the messiest? Eddie says, it's Charlie. There is no doubt. And obviously, I have agreed. Yep, Charlie is probably me. Me brackets Charlie.50:12Me, Maggie, Charlie. Charlie, yeah. Jenny did that for the first one. Just in case you weren't sure. It says your name at the top. Just in case my name was me. I knew it was overkill. Or you were doing my initials backwards.50:24That's true. Yeah. Oh yeah? I know I am really, really messy. Yeah. I'm really bad. You know, everybody knows. Yeah. But I think we've, I think we've actually balanced each other out. I've gotten probably more chilled and you've probably gotten a little bit more... I'm quite surprised that you're totally early. That's an insulting thing to say, but... People often, people are often surprised that I eat meat. They're often surprised that you said, you're surprised I didn't have tattoo. I think I just give up. You're such a free spirit. That's why. No.50:48Just little square. But it was really wonderful. It was a really special moment because Ellie engaged in... I was really worried about being so messy because I know I'm quite messy. And I try really hard to at least keep it to my side of the table so like it doesn't encroach upon her space. But then she went to T.J. Maxx and came back with all these organisational things for me. Yeah, I bought pots. And it really helped. And even though it's still kind of messy, it has really helped. Oh, it has really helped. No, it pleases me. It pleases me to behold. Thank you so much. But then yes, you have been very good at being relaxed.51:17So chill, yeah. You've not. I just can't find anything. And then, there's that like middle ground between our two spaces where things often stay for a while. And we both think that they're each other's thing. So we've had a couple of things that we both been like, what, why is that there? There's this tiny bit of blue ribbon that I kept sort of finding its way onto each other's desks and like on the floor, we kept picking it up. And then one day, Ellie was like, what is this? And I thought, I said, I thought it was yours. She's like, I thought it was yours! But now we're gonna keep it to the other one. Forever. Excellent.51:47likely to start a riot. And Ellie says, um, I think maybe me every time I hold one of those paper water cooler cups I have a strong urge to pour it all over the floor. Does this suggest a riot starting temperament? Perhaps. I'd say the use the use of um and perhaps.52:11And maybe, I think you've got to go full on. Don't have the courage or conviction. Yeah, if you're going to start a riot, you can't sort of like maybe start a riot. Does a riot not start with just a tiny little bit of water being spilt on a carpet? Does it not? Maybe it does.52:29a one match to burn a thousand trees in the words of Travis, doesn't it? Travis, yeah. It only takes one tree to make a thousand matches, but then it takes one match to burn a thousand trees. That's very good. There you go. Yeah. That is fascinating. Thank you, Travis. But also, Bruce Springsteen would say you can't start a riot without a spark. Yeah. So the spark. We have matches in mind. In my world is a puddle. It needs to meet up with Travis. Is it fire? I don't know. It's fire, isn't it? You can't start a fire without a spark. I just added a whole different element. You can't start a...52:59Billy Joel just says I didn't start the fire at all. Yes. Billy Joel says we didn't start it. It was always battling. Yeah, we didn't start it. It was always battling. Probably Travis or Springsteen. I feel like we've gone off track. OK, so what was my answer? Your answer was dot, dot, dot. Ellie. Oh, OK. I mean, definitely you. You're much more sort of followable, I would say. Oh. There you go. Who smells the best? No.53:28It's good that you're sitting down for this answer, Charlie. The answer is from Ellie. Charlie, she doesn't know this, but when she was away, I would sneak some of her fancy perfume.53:43So... Yeah, I'm sorry. I would, I would just take a little spritz of that lovely Jo Malone. Oh, the Jo Malone, I'm so glad you said that. And how do you feel about that, Charlie? Yeah, let's, and this is what we're talking about. This is the seed of the conflict. Do you feel good about that? She stole, stole some of your perfume. I absolutely love it. I love it!54:07That's so cute, of course, you're so welcome. And I felt very sneaky. And I would always put it back in exactly the same place. But now you know. I feel like I'm going to die with water. No, I love that. And also, yeah, that perfume's definitely to be shared. I'm obsessed with smells. Yeah, you smell better than me, for sure. You've been stealing my perfume. At least every night. Everyone. Yeah, Charlie, I've been stealing it as well. Everyone in the building has been stealing your perfume. My costume has reached the point.54:34My costume has reached the point where even if it's washed, I don't think that is doing anything to it. So I'm in a dire state of affairs. Oh my god. All tootles. That dress can dance on its own. Yeah, yeah. The story of a man, the Leeds Grand, who's a wizard of Oz playing the lion, who by the end of the run set fire to his lion costume because it smelt so bad. Oh gosh. And hadn't been able to wash it. Oh god. Wow. Yeah, so. But what was my answer? Your answer was dot, dot, dot. It's close dot, dot, dot. Aw.55:04Me? Yes! In terraband. It is you. Well, it was because you do smell nice. But you smell nice. We all know it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Who takes the longest to get ready? Well. The answer for Ellie is Charlie. When she leaves before me, I know something has gone gravely wrong. That's true. Yes, you've put me. I have. It does take me ages. I like to take my time. Yeah.55:32But, yeah, well, we sometimes are even, like, more even. Well, I do get in earlier, so technically it's taken me longer. But I have, I've managed to get a speed one in occasionally. We've been forced to. I just don't like to, that's the point. Yeah, you want to take your time. I could do it quicker, I don't wish to. You like to just be, you chill out. Yeah. Who has the best hair? At least as Charlie has the best hair.55:56after the show. She's mastered the art of the pin curls. I've just had a drastic chop and taking the wig off after the show is always tense. Yeah. I have to say, my new haircut is not playing ball with this wig cap situation. Every time I take my hair out of the cap, it's just like I've been electrocuted and like a cartoon character. And you have these beautiful curls that you've managed to, you know. So nice. Well, Charlie is- It is nice.56:25Uh-uh.56:27because Charlie's put Ellie. Oh no! We've lost a point. But out of love. Out of love. I mean, I know what you mean about your post-big hair. It's bad. I mean, it looks that bad, but you do get stressed about it. I think my hair now doesn't really look very good. Guys, I'm having a bad hair spot. I like this new cut. Thank you. Oh, thank you. For listeners, she's gone for a really cool, like, pixie mullet. Yeah. It's blonde, it's gorgeous, it's bold. It's just a bit fluffy. If anyone actually has any tips about this kind of hair and what- Just conditioner.56:57Really? I was doing the other thing. If you've got really curly hair, then it means it's not going to be fluffy. Because it fluffs out, that's what I don't like. It just needs some definition. How about from this guy? I don't know if that's right or not. Well done. All the tips. I worked with the stage manager who had very curly hair and she said yes, she only used conditioner. Oh, okay great. I'm going to try that. Thank you. Awesome. Who farts the most? Oh, he says I do.57:20I've never farted, says Ellie. That's true. In your life? That's true. It's a condition. Absolutely never. I call lying. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't even... Well, Charlie's agreed. Yeah. She says she farts the most. Oh, it's definitely me. I'm always like, Oh no, oh no, you need to run away, because I've farted in here. Did you? We should never show a dresser, right? No, that's true. It would be a hazard. It would, yeah. Fuck that logical hazard. Who spends the most time on social media?57:49tough one. Probably me. I have more time off stage and god forbid I actually socialise with my colleagues.57:57Your answers are so good. On social media. Yeah. Charlie's but close, but Ellie. Yeah. I also, I think that point you made earlier, Matt, about like posting things, I'd say Ellie's also more proactive. Yeah, you're good, you get good content. Good content, yeah. Thanks guys. Yeah, nice pictures. You're good at taking pics. Yeah, I do love to take a pic. You're very arty, you do great little post-its as well. For those who don't know, Ellie's been for a whole run been...58:22drawing, so caricatures of people on post-it notes in the wig room. Yeah. Now the wall's covered in these. They are. I'm going to try and take them with me. This is why people think Ellie's a vegetarian and has to do it. Yeah, exactly. Just because I wear yellow. But I eat meat, guys. Sorry. You're going to get, this is the biggest white list of it all. Who spends the most, oh, just on that, sorry. Who gets the most grumpy? And he says, me. Do you?58:50Oh yes, she says me, Charlie, is queen of positive spin, but never stifles a needed grump every so often. This is why she's excellent. Oh! That's nice. Yeah. The other ones are way more wholesome than us. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Really? Yeah. What have we got here? We've got...59:12early question. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But but you're right. I don't I don't have a problem with that. Oh, no, you're always just like, you know, let's let's let's have this grump. Let's write it out. Space for the grump. Let's experience it. And then it's all better. We call our dressing room safe space. Safe space. And you're allowed to be grumpy. Oh, yeah. Even though we're so like sometimes. Yeah. On Broadway, you're like, oh, my God, I'm so lucky. I'm in New York. This is the most amazing thing. But that doesn't mean that you don't have bad days or something doesn't, you know,59:42tired and you need to be allowed to just be grumpy in a safe space. Absolutely. And get it out and that's the only way to get out. I had a big old grump with that fish, didn't I, the other day in the show. I really... I didn't know whether to laugh or not. I'm glad you were laughing. The subject matter was so funny. I was absolutely furious. There's a part in the show where I have to pick up a huge unwieldy wooden whale with basically like the slippiest gloves on and I have to kind of whip it round and make it hit something. And for the first half of the show I was doing it...01:00:09Perfectly every time and I just have I just lost it. I've lost the knack and it's driving me mad Yeah, and I think I reached my breaking point the other day and I came on the edge Changing room was like what has happened? I'm glad you laughed at me because otherwise it would have been I did eventually but it was touching go is Because because what you were talking about was so silly Yeah, I understand it01:00:37Who is the most likely to stay for ages at the stage door signing playbills and taking photos? I'm not sure. I get quite flustered sometimes and speed through them, so maybe Charlie? Mm-hmm. Um, well, Charlie put Ellie, so... Oh, oh, nice. Now, of course, Charlie's favourite question. Oh, yeah. And then...

01:00:56need for a hierarchy. Who is the boss? I like a hierarchy, me. I want to know who my line manager is. Er, Ellie's put me. Yeah. And Charlie's put Ellie. 100%. Oh wow, I wouldn't have. I love to defer. I love to defer to Elle. Yeah. But we've got... We've got another question. Obviously it comes in a second, don't we? Yeah. Oh yeah, of course. Who is the best in personating other cast members?01:01:25Um, me. Did I just put me? Yeah.01:01:30I know, I was something more to that. Okay, well I guess I think it's me. And Charlie, unfortunately, has written mutual. Oh no! Oh shit. We've lost the game. I would say that it depends on, it just depends on the class member. I actually think, no, now that I'm looking at you, I think it might be you. Well we did that whole thing in the bar where we had to go through everyone. It's too late for this. I do a good one at Dish, but. Yeah. Is that how, is that how? What does Dish mean? It's exactly that. Oh! It's stood there, right? And you like lean forward,01:02:00the balls of your feet and you go, oh? Oh, that's it, that's very good. And you go, mm? Oh yeah. Relax. Can you just lean back again? What, Ellie, what can you do, um, Wow, I don't know, God, I'm really stuck to this chair. I know, it's quite threatening. Uh, gosh, give me somebody. Jonathan Sayer. Oh. Okay, uh.01:02:24Oh no, that's not it. That's like the ultimate visual. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I can't think of anything John does. Oh. Okay, it's all visual. You've gone for visual. On a medium. All right, I'm going to take a picture of this so that people can see it later. Can you do that for us again? So this is John like... Brilliant. Amazing. But was that... If it's not good, you can tell me.01:02:53Did it not evoke Jonathan's air? It didn't to me. Not particularly. I mean, I just thought it was an interesting choice to not go. It was a bold physical off. Oh! Oh no! Oh!01:03:06I can do a good Harry. Okay. Oh yes! Yes! Excellent! You know what? I'm changing my answer. I think it's Charlie. Yeah, I think so too. I think so too. Yeah, I'm changing mine. I think it's me too. Backdated. Yeah, okay. And finally, very important question. Who is the boss? I'm so sorry that I wrote that. Charlie. Oh!01:03:28Oh, you just stop it. Yeah. For comedy reasons, obviously. Well, that's it because I wrote the questions. So I'm in charge. That was a wrap. That was great. I really enjoyed that. Although, officially we lost. We did. We lost the game. Well done, Harry. Also, maybe we had an advantage because Harry and I also shared a dressing room on tour several years ago and we also shared a dressing room in Edinburgh in August.01:03:50last year. Oh yeah, you did a show together. So we've done a lot of dress-room sharing. Yeah, fair enough. This is our first time. It was just scary, you know, you don't know what it's going to be like. You're like, is this going to work out? I was pretty sure it would be fine. Oh, it's been a dream. It's been a dream. It's been an absolute dream. I've loved it. And I've really, I really liked, obviously, all the games, all the voices that Ellie does. She does this thing before we start the show where she'll be like, oh, all right, I'll be Tootles, I suppose. Tootles, I suppose.01:04:20But also I've got to say officially that Ellie has really taken a hit this run because when we were put into our dressing rooms we were assigned our seats and she was put in the seat next to the door and the Ethel Baringmore is an incredible theatre but for one dressing room the design is off and the door opens into the seat. This is often why I'm in a terrible grump is because every time someone has to enter or exit the dressing room I have to move my chair or I get hit.01:04:47With the door. Oh, it's very annoying. And she was, there was always room for a grump in our dressing room. She's never actually asked to swap with me. Absolutely not. She's been amazing. She's taken that for me. And so we... Yeah, we will be switching in the next dressing room. Yeah, if there's another dressing room and there's anything, anywhere bad to sit, I will be taking it. Even if there are like two good seats and one bad seat, I will... Well, I've been told that LA is very... Yeah, spacious. Roomy.01:05:15I get dripped on by the air conditioning unit. Yes. Oh no, do you? You can't get hit that. Yeah, yeah. That's annoying. Yeah, so I mop that up every now and again.01:05:23But that's alright because usually we're pretty hot when we come off stage. A little drip here and there. A little drip on the forehead. Yeah. It won't hurt anyone, is it? That's true. Now we're going to finish up. We've been chatting for a lovely long time. But before we leave, have you got any tips for anyone coming to visit New York? So it doesn't have to be about the show. But just anything you've really enjoyed, a good show you've seen, even if it's closed it might go on. So you could always recommend that. Somewhere you've eaten, something to do. I know you guys, Matt you do a lot. I've done tons of stuff. You're amazing.01:05:53That's mostly, yeah, I mean, that's been a team effort, as Harry would say, with my girlfriend, who's come over a few times. But one of my favorite things I've done, which is not often on the people's lists of things to do, is Governance Island, which is a little ferry ride from Wall Street, and they've turned it, or they're in the process of turning the whole island, which is pretty small, into a national park, because they've got a spa there, they've got cafes and a few bars, and then it's all just park, it's just seats and art installations and grass. That's nice, you know, it's not.01:06:22it's not Central Park but you feel like you're out of the city. That's lovely yeah I wish I'd got a chance to do that. Well um come back to me I can't think of anything right now. I'd say Ivan Ramen, amazing ramen and Dante's NYC does like great cocktails.01:06:40On top of that, I'd say just generally in New York, don't be scared to have a conversation with someone that you don't know. It's not a very British thing. Whereas when someone says hello, my natural instinct is to run away. But actually generally, people will say, hello, are you from London? And then we'll get into a conversation and it might be a good conversation. Yeah, you might get discount on a bagel. I'm not guaranteeing anything. Yeah. Wait, you might get a discount on a bagel. I got a discount on a bagel this morning because I was from London.01:07:10I love that. Yeah, like half off. What? Yeah, but then the guy did ask me if the Eiffel Tower was in London.01:07:19Okay. But may have been a joke. May have been. In which case. Let's assume that. Yeah. I would recommend, which I did with Matt Kervenish's girlfriend and Henry Lewis, we went whale watching. Whale watching from New York. So cool. I know, I didn't know you could do that. So for Sheepshead Bay, I think it was Princess Whales. Princess Cruises. Yeah. Down very far away in Brooklyn. Don't go to the wrong pier. Matt went to the wrong pier and it was touch and go.01:07:49to catch the boat, but we got there. You did. So just write in the address when you're looking for it. And it's lovely. And we actually did see whales. Yeah, we saw humpback whales. We saw hundreds of dolphins. And you also get hundreds, honestly. And you get this, wow. You get this great view of Manhattan as well. Oh my goodness. It's nice to do something a little bit different. Just wear sunscreen. Ah, yes. Matt and I felt a little responsible when Henry Lewis returned a little pink in the face. Aw.01:08:19And that's a relatively recent thing. A lot of New Yorkers don't even know that you can go watching from New York. It's only been nice 10 years or so. That's very cool. Thanks to the, what was it, the Clean Water Act in the 70s or something. We learned a lot on the show. Oh wow. Lovely's Hamburgers as well. Really? It's a new hamburger place on ninth. Oh lovely, yes. I'm obsessed, yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay, I have one now. It's Laser Tag. We've been to Laser Tag a couple of times since we've been here. We went for my birthday at a place in Brooklyn called Area 53, I think it was.01:08:48And that was a whole lot of fun. And there's also a place on Chelsea Pier that's like a bowling place with like a mini laser tag. And that was just fun. Yeah. Yeah, that's great. There's so much to do in New York that isn't the obvious stuff. Although there's nothing wrong.01:09:01with doing the obvious stuff in the rock, all of that kind of thing because they're great things to see but yeah, you can... There's something for everyone here, isn't there? Definitely. Just as we leave. I know, we're gonna like... We guys still haven't done this before. Yeah, everything I do this week I'm like really thinking about oh what's the last thing I want to eat, like where's the last restaurant I want to go to. But you know what, I'm sure in some capacity at some point we'll be back. Oh yeah. I think we are anyway.01:09:26for sure. And I'm just very grateful to have had the time. Oh totally, it's been a blast. A surreal dream-like existence. Six months. Yeah. Well thank you all for coming on the podcast. Pleasure. Thank you. Thanks for inviting me, child. It was so nice. Oh my pleasure. Dream team. Nice to be out in Williamsburg. Yeah, well we can have a little wander. Yeah. And it's goodbye from us for today's episode. Goodbye! Goodbye. Bye! Thank you all so much for listening. Make sure you...01:09:54Follow Mischief Comedy on Instagram and all sorts of different social media things to find more about other episodes that we have From our time here in New York. Bye. Bye I was hoping for more conflict if I'm honest. We had a bit of conflict. I actually can't believe I'm not better at impressions I'm quite It fell flat I should have just said thank you Broadway01:10:25Baby.